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"Clanky", a Canadian Sherman tank | |||
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"Clanky," a Sherman tank
of the Fourth Canadian Armoured Division, photographed in Normandy on 28
July 1944. Trooper Gordon Holstrom, Corporal John Lardner, and Trooper
Dick Mitchell have a conversation for the camera man. Note the thick dust
on the tank's tracks and the boots of the men. A more detailed description
of this photo can be found in the book South Albertas At War by
Donald Graves.
Courtesy of Michael Dorosh' CANUCK website. |
M4A2 Sherman APC | |
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In the 1960s, the Field Training Section of the Royal Canadian Armoured Corps School at Meaford had 22 Sherman APCs on strength. For the full story see the Kangaroos page. |
M10 17 pdr SP Gun | |||
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This photo is captioned "Arrival of self-propelled gun of the 25th Brigade at Pusan, Korea, 25 April 1951". It was sent in by Peter Brown who comments: "note the two-tone colour scheme, and the neatly shaded 41 on the arm-of-service square. The M10 is called ANTOINETTE and the 25th Brigade marking is already painted on. The Jeep in the foreground has its AoS mark on a separate plate. Wording on bar above is 'Z CDN MC GP' as far as I can see, and its serial where visible is '89.167'" |
Geoff Winnington-Ball of Maple
Leaf Up found some some background information on the M10 17 pdr
SP Gun in Korea:
"I went digging a bit and came up with an interesting little book which has just been released and is presently sitting on the shelves, here in Canada at least. Entitled BLOOD ON THE HILLS*), by David Bercuson, this book seems to be a comprehensive reference in which the author is brutally honest about both the triumphs and the shortcomings of the whole process of seeing some 25,000 Canadians off to war for the second time in a scant five years. While his prime thread is the history of that [Canadian] excursion, with its attendant and damning political overtones, his emphasis is on the vets themselves, many of whose accounts are contained herein. It's the first definitive thing I personally have ever read on the subject, and I was impressed. This book seems to be a comprehensive reference in which the author is brutally honest about both the triumphs and the shortcomings of the whole process of seeing some 25,000 Canadians off to war for the second time in a scant five years. While his prime thread is the history of that [Canadian] excursion, with its attendant and damning political overtones, his emphasis is on the vets themselves, many of whose accounts are contained herein. It's the first definitive thing I personally have ever read on the subject, and I was impressed, but I'd like to hear the opinions of others better schooled in that era. On the subject of tanks and equipment in general, Bercuson is pretty straight-forward, but he fails to answer some of our questions here. It was Foulkes himself who established the very hodge-podge mix of Canadian, British and American weapons and equipment for the boys, but not until February 1951. By that time, our Special Force brigade was training in Ft. Lewis, Washington, and mention is made of Rockingham's changing the mission of the armour from anti-tank to armour-infantry co-operation: ...by December the NKPA and its T-34s were history, and the Chinese never used armour in Korea... Bercuson goes on the delineate the weakness on the M-10: ...it was dangerous; its open turret invited any enemy soldier with even a mediocre arm to lob in a hand grenade. Rockingham was uneasy about using the M-10s. He soon shifted the armour squadron from anti-tank training to armour-infantry co-operation. But that too was useless, because the Korean terrain would not allow infantry and armour to advance together, while using armour in the attack forced an army to stay road-bound. Bercuson's only specific reference to the replacement of the M-10s comes a bit later in the story, once the 25th Canadian Infantry Brigade Group had landed at Pusan on 4 May, 1951: The serious work began on 5 May in a tropical downpour. Rockingham arranged for the replacement of most of the brigade's 17-pounder anti-tank guns with U.S.-built 75mm recoilless rifles, which had proved effective at providing with close, direct-fire support... several days later, Ottawa authorized Rocky to arrange to swap the M-10 tank destroyers of C Squadron, Lord Strathcona's Horse, for Sherman M4A3 tanks, supplied by the U.S. Army.... these two major changes of equipment were not complete until mid-May, delating the training schedule... So it looks as if the M-10s
went directly to the U.S. Army, to be reallocated/disposed of according
to their whim.
*) see Michael Dorosh' CANUCK website for a discussion on the book BLOOD ON THE HILLS: THE CANADIAN ARMY IN THE KOREAN WAR by Dr. David J. Bercuson. |
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