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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 22:11:23 -0500 (EST)
From: [email protected]
Subject: richard s. edwards (dd950)

as an ole sub sailor it pains me to search for a destroyer, they usually had no problem searching for me...and even being in close proximity to one makes my palms sweat....but, my friend stan served on this vessel and inquired as to whether or not i could find it on the web....i had boasted about how i could find anything on the web...you know, with my sonar, radar, direction finders, etc; ...well..... as you can see that tincan must be sitting up there with engines off... ...waiting.....palms are wet again, air getting foul....so if you can give me any help finding this spruance class greyhound, i would appreciate it and would pass the info on to my friend and by the way, i will admit that i needed help setting up the track, speed, and angle of this destroyer.

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Bob,

Actually, as an old tin can sonar "ping jockey" who use to enjoy cranking the pulse length up to 120 milliseconds and narrowing down the bearing width to 60 degrees, .... especially when coming into San Diego and Bridge didn't want to hear the words "Sonar Contact" ... Hi! how ya doin?

Actually the 950 was a Forrest Sherman class, not a Spruance (which are too damn big to be classed as destroyers anyway but don't tell them that) and I'll tell you what, just so you don't have to admit defeat to your buddy I'll create some pages tomorrow morning to make him happy!

Anyway...got called to dinner...more later

Rich

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 12:09:29 -0500 (EST)
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: richard s. edwards (dd950)

thanks for the help, now i cannot find the search words necesssary to get back to your page.....i have tried all kind of combinations.....help

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Well as much as I hate to let a sub sailor win over a tin-can swab, it was to good to pass up. There are now pages in DOL on the Richard S. Edwards that you can point out to your friend.

Rich

No problem....www.plateau.net/usndd Usually if you do a search on destroyer it will find it fairly quickly. It would probably be a lot quicker if there weren't so many damn submarine sites on the Internet

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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:46:55 -0500 (EST)
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: richard s. edwards (dd950)

got your e-mail, thanks, i looked it up and printed the info page and will give it to my friend, say....while your complaining about the great/fantastic/stupendous submarine pages on the web.....have ewe ever looked at submarine patrol logs...fantastic, it would be great if ewe could get some of the ww2 operation logs of some of the dd's. i am sure there are some dd sailors out there that can read, you may have to put pictures in for the majority of them though. when i entered the navy in 1959 i went into the diesel boat navy... subron #4...in charleston sc. they had the gilmore as-16 along with harder, darter, trigger, trout, clamagore, sennate etc; i then went to holy loch scotland on the proteus as-19 and wuz the first ship in holy lock. that was subron #6 and consisted of the george washington, patric henry and eathan allen. ssbn's. i got out and fooled around a few years, then went into the seabees and served in vietnam in 68/69/70 era. am now retired from gpu nuclear and am starting emt school this coming wed. nite.... soon to be called doc. just thought you may want to know what happens to old submarine cast-off's. later bob hollinger

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Bob,

Have I ever looked at submarine exploits! I grew up reading about the Trigger, the Harder and the Tang. I always split my time when growing up between the boats and the cans, so with your prompting, I ask myself .... Why when I was finally old enough to join the navy did I run at the destroyers..?

hmmmm.....musta been a reason...

Couldn't have been the food. It certainly wasn't that I would have to walk in less salt water....hmm...

HA! now I am coming to it!

YES ! I have it! Real sailors always keep their heads ABOVE the water..YES!

Now why couldn't I have realized that before? and now that you mention it (to go on to other things), yep, that's a good idea to get some logs. Tin Can sailors probably, as you point out, didn't write very well, but we might be able to figure out something between the lines of X's....

I'm glad to hear that you were on the REAL boats, the Diesels. I always liked them best as they were easier to track with the fuel slicks and all....and what the ell is an emt and how does it relate to the term "doc" (am I in over my head? he asks)?

Rich

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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 08:32:40 -0500 (EST)
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: richard s. edwards (dd950)

an emt stands for an emergency medical tech, one of those civilian corpsman, who arrives at the scene just in time to save the damsel in distress or a farmer involved in a sexual accident with farm machinery. hey, it keeps you off the streets and out of trouble. you were talking about subs, the only time you saw a diesel fuel slick was on wash day when we were hanging our dungarees from the loop antenna to give them a freshenen up. one time in the north atlantic in the winter i saw a couple of tin cans that made more trim dives each day than subs. i noticed though that they only took it down to stack depth and leveled off before returning to the surface. i had to laugh, one day close abeam of a destroyer in heavy weather we could see water splashing out of the mess deck onto the weather deck. it was probably drier eating up on the forecastle than on the mess deck.

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Ah....got it "doc", and even I will feel safer now.

Ya, but I was always able to keep my head above water, and the water you saw splashing out of the mess decks was probably the cook throwing up!

But speaking of saving damsels, when can we count on this becoming effective and what geographical area will we be safe in?

Destroyers are glorious of course, even if they ARE submarine wannabe's! and some of my proudest moments were when we would refuel from a carrier, with me on the main deck "awash", trying to coil line up against a ladder so the waves wouldn't wash it away. All of this whilst high and dry "airdales" were lounging, smoking, and wishing that "they too" could be "real sailors."